The Mystery of Evil, the Soverenty of God

The mystery of evil, the Soverenty of God. ATL civic center. This talk had two speakers Os Guinness and Ravi Zacharias. The talks were followed by a breif Q&A session.  I tried to type as much of the points in my iPhone as possible but I didn't catch all of it. There are still some powerful and interesting points. I have a bunch of spelling and grammer errors, please ignore them. 

My notes: 

Os Gunisses
- Evil is the greatest mystery we face having come out of the most murderous century. 
- "The un examined life is not worth living." - Socrates
- We need to know where evil comes from
- Where does evils come from? how does it enter the evil ones heart
- evils comes frome our 1bodies, 2nature, or 3other human beans
- Bodies) It is easy to see that our bodies are frail and allow sin to vet in
-nature) Cataclysmic sources of devistation
- humans) 100million killed in war, 100mil political reasons, 100 mil 

- Every suffer is unique, you cannot treat them all the same or make sweeping generalizations
- people ask -> Why me? Where's God? How can I stand it?
- People also ask - why not me?
- Athiest tend to blame their not beliving in God on God.
- If you know a why to live it will take care of any how - Neitche
- Appretiates the modern transformations of evil. 
 - We are not more evil now, just bigger toys
- define:polyanerusin <-- that was a really big word...  - in 1900 with asprin is the first time we can live without real pain and suffering - a queen had 14 dead children  - Modern toys let evil be able to be done by ordinary laymen. who were not aware. People get distanted from the affected people.  - we marginalized the way we deal with evil.  - America is making evil cool. we should be warned. look what came out of Germany. what are we breeding in this country.  - You can't use science to measure questions - people turn to worldviews and religions for explainations - buudism is a religion sized answer to evil. Ducca - Hinduism - freedom from individuality instead of to it - Athiest - even if we fight heroically we are facing never ending defeat. the real problem is existence.  - Trilenna: 3 problems - Big Question: Could God be all good, all powerful, and evil still be evil? - Its not existence that's the problem, it's human disobedience - John 11 -> v35 Jesus wept was a strong wept, furious, the word was the strongest for anger or outrage. 
- Evil was nit suppsed to be this way. 
- "No other wounds"
- "I don't know the answer to evil, but I do know love."   
- We know know God is good bc of Jesus. 
- The resistiance leader knows best. 
- We are in the Dark because of some stuff, but Jesus is the resistance leader. 
- In auchwitz a lot of people actually deepend in faith - Francol
- A small faith is like a small fire. Wind In a small fire blows it out but a large fire get fanned. 
- More athiest took their lives ls bc they cannot handle evil.  

Ravi Zacharias
- The lonliest moment of life is the abscense of pleasure
- In the breaking of a life it is senldom only one life if broken/affected. 
- Tiger woods= have I kept to the teaching of my faith this would have not happened. 
- the buddist founder left his family the day he son was born. he thought the way to life was total renounciation of family and everything. 
- Quoting : Tye day America told the truth
-- Women are more moral than men
-- America has no leaders
-- I US was a business we would have been taken over
-- US makes up it's own rules w/ out respect to anybody
-- Us is loosing their childhood
-- US is the most violent
-- break down of taking care of elderly
-- US has no heros
- The conclusions of this is that we all have moral implications. The book title assumes the truth was told. 
- define:evil--> violation of purpose, the purpose of the creator. 
- the great writers talk about a noble ambistions in people to make a heroic act. 
- The people like Karl Marx that te idea of God is an idea that lost it's legitimacy. 
- i want to raise a veneration of young people devoid of a conscious, relentless... - Hitler on the sign at Auchwitz
- [A Deitrick Bonhoffer quote about good and evil writtern in prison.]
- How does america frame it's mission statement?   
- "We Declare these truths to be self evident...." Something that is self evidence is undeniable. - This is how we define our nation. 
- We believe in inallienable rights. This was paid for 
- You are not a body with a soul you are a afoul with a body. 
 
- 1) there is an announcement -  In the begining God...
- Earnsy Heckle - German zoologist influenced Darwin. 
- lower races are nearer to apes and dogs than human.
- 2) there is a commanment - we don like laws
- 3) there are boundaries between life
- Chesterton says thy whenever there is a fence we have to stop and see why it was there in the first place
4) There is a blessing  

- When somebody blesses and prays for you in their own human state you come from thr realization that the blessing is from God

- When God made us he called us good
- Principles to govern our lives -- faith, hope, and love
- It is only the love of God that frees us
- "I was covered in somebody elses blood and they took me for dead and spared me." - Words from a man in the Bombay hotel masacre
- The last link in darwins athiesim is the damnable doctorine of eternal damnation. 
- Ghandi would not have worked if he wasn't appealing to the hearts of a Christian nation - Bertrand Russel 
- God -- goodness -- love --???

- When we ate of the knowledge of Good and evil we made the choice of deciding for ourself
- God gave us the greatest good and free will, in order to make it whole he had to allow for the possibility of evil and to reject the gift of good.

- Pornography makes the individual seek after a feeling instead of a person.
- I was riding the tiger of deceit for so long that I was afraid that if I got off it would devour me.

- Origin, morality, meaning, and destiny
- Always combine knowledge with mistery.
- God has left enough in the world to make faith in him the most reasonable thing. He has left enough out to make it impossible to live by reason alone.
- Truth goodness and evil is a personal responsibility.